Written by | Posted November 19, 2013 – 4:46 pm Deconstruction

Bad things are happening in Stormwind – and beyond.

The Hand of Lothar, they call themselves.

Yva Darrows was their first target.

Tirith and Aely were their second and third.

They have since… expanded their reach and escalated their methods …

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In the Brainstorm of Good and Evil
comment 4 Written by on February 26, 2009 – 5:52 am

I really enjoyed this post from Going Bearfoot (hat tip to Ila and Panzercow)! I started to leave a comment, and then it got WAY too long, so I figured I’d just make a blog post instead!

I have some issue with the definitions that Bearfoot uses of Good and Evil. If “good” doesn’t need a reason – is it then not “good” to defend your family against someone trying to do them harm? If not, then “doing good” becomes “being a doormat” – because obviously fighting is done for a reason. The quote is nice – but it doesn’t approach the hard questions of ethics with nearly enough flexibility/complexity.

Nitpicky little arguments aside, there are times that you can paint both sides with the “evil” brush, and no faction has a stronghold on “good”. Even the peace-loving Tauren are focused on revenge against the Centaur. Lying down and playing dead doesn’t make “good” any more than defending one’s homeland makes “evil” (Vengeance may be bad, but is it wrong to take back something someone has stolen from you?).

Obviously, it’s a MUCH bigger question.

Plus at this point, the Alliance/Horde war is approaching Hatfield/McCoy proportions, and in those situations I don’t think anyone is right.

Is Thrall a more noble leader than Varian Wrynn? Probably (I definitely think so). He’s also a more noble leader than Garrosh Hellscream, the hot-headed leader of Horde forces in Northrend. Fortunately, a leader does not the entire faction make, or we’d get to judge the factions on the actions of Staghelm/Wrynn and Sylvanas/Garrosh instead of keeping Tyrande/Magni and Thrall/Cairne in the mix. I’d venture to say that there are both “good” and “evil” elements of both Factions (Plz to have Bolvar back, kthx?), especially with the growing influence of the Argent Crusade and the Knights of the Ebon Blade – and their cooperation with both factions.

And nobody has a stronghold on Evil except Sargeras.

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4 Responses to “In the Brainstorm of Good and Evil”

  1. Much like yourself, my comment got way too long to be a comment and I made it a blog post, breaking from the fictional focus for a moment.

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  2. Is it just me, or would Garrosh Hellscream and Varian Wrynn be best of friends if they weren’t bitter enemies? They’re both fight-happy hotbloods.

    Please to have Fordragon back, maybe. Please to have a three-member badass fighting stable/tag-team of Malfurion, Lothar, and Uther back, YES.

  3. Thanks for the comment in post form!

    Couple of things I’d like to point out though. First, that I did mention keeping yourself alive is a completely neutral action. For example, you can’t examine the ethics of the animal kingdom… it’s all instinctive. So ‘laying down and dying’ -is- accounted for.

    Second, I think that these are very, VERY general guidelines and not really a fool-proof system. I am definitely able to admit there is no four-line definition of good and evil that will work for everyone, for ever. We people are WAAAAY too good at finding loopholes. ;)

    Third… I had no idea that I would suddenly go from 15 views a week (mostly me to check formatting) to near 100 every day, for three days and counting. O.o If I had I might have put a LOT more time into it and probably have put on a suit or something!

    So, long story short- I acknowledge the faults in the argument, and thank you for taking the time to read and process and respond intelligently!

    And Lans? We don’t like Garrosh any more than you like Varian Wrynn. :( He makes baby tauren cry.

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  4. @Mitawa:

    You got linkbombed! It happens to all of us sometimes, and don’t worry about the suit – I like your blog just how it is :) and I *did* enjoy the post. It made me use my braincells – and anything that does that is usually good stuff!

    By Anna on Feb 27, 2009 | Reply

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