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A Last Hurrah
comment 5 Written by on July 30, 2010 – 8:03 am

Tonight is TRI’s last official raid for the expansion.

Even as one of the officers who was part of making that decision, I’m a little bittersweet about it.

Yeah, I’m pretty tired of Icecrown – we’ve been in that place for 8 months now. And yeah, I’m kind of tired of making rosters out of duct tape and sheer force of will, and having to cancel half the raids in the last month due to lack of people doesn’t help much either. And I don’t really like bringing in undergeared, inexperienced subs and having to re-teach bosses we’ve had on farm for 6+ months every week, nor do I like not being able to work on our progression because we have so many new folks (who don’t know the fights, and end up dead or have low numbers due to concentrating on fight mechanics) that we don’t have the DPS numbers to beat an enrage timer. Wrynn’s Buff of Chin doesn’t make up for having to learn a fight, you know?

But at the same time, I really like the people I raid with. They’re fun and funny. Quite literally any member of the raid would, if they were magically in town for the weekend, get invited for coffee/beer/barbecue, and we’d probably have a good time. I’ve spent 7 hours a week (if not more, for officer stuff and 10 mans) with them for all of Wrath of the Lich King. Some of them, for all of Burning Crusade too.

So I’ll miss that.

But in the end, I think this was a good decision for a number of reasons.

Recently, TRI’s become kind of split.

We’ve started having roster issues, in ways that we never have when we’re fighting new bosses, because people are tired of the content. They’re burned out. We’ve been raiding consistently for more than 18 months with no more than a week or two off until recently – which is a long time, especially for people who have lives and kids and jobs and etc.

Within the regular roster, there’s a group of people who are so unbelievably done with raiding that they’re only showing up because people expect them to and depend on them as part of the group. (Which, by the way, is very cool. Having been there, sometimes that SUCKS, and so this is me saying “If that’s you, we know, and we appreciate that you’re still showing up.”) They’re silent in ventrilo and chat channels, and some of the usual exuberant banter has been lost to just “getting it over and done with”.

The other group within the raid is still gung-ho about raiding and is really interested in doing hardmodes in ICC. But, when asked, they generally said they didn’t want to push too hard for it, because they know other people in the raid don’t want to do hardmodes, are burned out, and aren’t having fun, and that puts a damper on their enthusiasm. They really want to keep raiding, but they don’t like “forcing” people they like and care about to do things they hate. (Which is also very cool, and says a lot about the caliber of people in TRI.)

So between that, the next two weeks having huge numbers of known absences that would probably cause both weeks to get called off entirely, the officers being kind of burned out too, and “real life” busily getting started for the fall again, we decided to call it off now.

To end on a high note, rather than running the raid into the ground and dragging people through farm content while we re-train new folks, and canceling every other raid, until everyone was thoroughly sick of it and each other.

I don’t think this is the “end” of TRI raiding, either.

It’s the end of official 25 mans, but I expect to see a few 10 man achievement runs pop up, and to see the occasional 25 man run for alts or achievements as well. Plus whatever happens with Operation Gnomeregan. And once Cataclysm rolls around, we’ll see TRI version 4.0 – newer, stronger, and in whatever form it ends up taking for the next round of raids.

We’ve killed Kel’thuzad and Sarth+3 (back when Sarth+3 was hard, and Ulduar hadn’t released yet). We’ve killed Yogg’saron and many Ulduar hardmodes, Anub’arak and half of hardmode Trial of the Crusader. And we’ve killed Arthas and Halion, we’ve pushed through a number of hardmodes in ICC too. We’ve run two, sometimes three, successful 10 mans, as well as achievement and drake runs as well.

As a raid, TRI progressed farther and faster in Wrath of the Lich King than any other incarnation of TRI previously. Sure we’ve had our struggles, but we’ve gotten the hatchmarks on the fence, and we’ve done it while remaining a “casual” raid and having a good time.

I’m proud of what we’ve done, and proud of the people I raid with. This was my first set of raids as an officer, and I can’t think of a better group of people to be part of leading (or a better group of officers to lead raids with).

And I’m really, REALLY glad we have chat channels, ’cause otherwise I’d miss them terribly.


It seems to me rather fitting that the only thing on the hit-list tonight is Arthas.

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5 Responses to “A Last Hurrah”

  1. It sounds like you’re making the right decision, though I understand why it would be hard. I hope you all do really well tonight and ride off into the sunset with your heads held high. 🙂

    By Verdus on Jul 30, 2010 | Reply
  2. The guild I’m a social member in (also happens to have been my TBC raiding guild) has just had to make the same decision too. A lot of burn out and people quitting, it was becoming a very unfamiliar guild, I think they made the right decision, to quit before it got too bad.

    Good luck with the next few months, hope you guys get back together for Cataclysm 🙂

  3. At the moment, sadly, even the Glory runs look like they will be canceled, due to a lack of interest and a proper roster. 🙁 I’m glad that we’re ending on a high note (last night’s Halion was very satisfactory) and that burned out people will have a chance to refresh and detox.
    For now, Pauric will mingle with a few other raids and see what other raid groups are like. I’ll be interested in seeing what arises from WotLK TRI into the coming expansion; there is a core of good players there, and the content in Cataclysm (as far as Beta has shown) promises to be both interesting and more challenging than what we saw in Wrath.

    By Dravir on Jul 30, 2010 | Reply
  4. With all you guys have accomplished, I can definitely see where both the bitter and the sweet come in. I am currently in the position of having changed guilds during the release of ICC, so I’ve been running the first six bosses and not much else every week for the whole entire time. As my guild’s lone tank healer, I can’t really take a break or even bring an alt, so I understand the burnout your raiders are feeling. The break will be good for you, I’m sure.

    Congratulations, though, and enjoy your last ride.

  5. Our guild’s raid leaders made a similar decision opting out of weekly raids and going instead to bi-weekly official raids. We’ve had serious attendance issues through the summer and have subbed in a lot of people who are undergeared, inexperienced, and some who just don’t know how to play their class. Some of the tired people have decided to switch roles and bring in alts, so they aren’t necessarily doing their upmost to contribute. It’s kind of sad, since we just hit the Lich King in 25 and have progressed well with the buff, but in a way I think it will help revitalize things. On those weeks we do have an official raid we can hopefully make more of a dent.

    By Gypsy on Aug 1, 2010 | Reply

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