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An RP Conundrum – Roflstomp?
comment 4 Written by on April 22, 2009 – 10:48 am

Courtesy of Illithias, messed up night elf warrior chick extraordinaire and author of whiteboard strategies, an RP conundrum post.

(Everyone bug Illi until he gets his blog set up. I’m told he has a domain already!  The Riders are fast approaching the “bloggingest guild” status, and we needs MORE!)

You come up with a brilliant idea. It’s emotional, it’s evocative, it suits your character well. It’s brilliant. You want to write it – it’ll be fun to write. However, there’s a slight catch. It, by necessity, requires the involvement and assistance of another PC. And they’re merely there to facilititate a story in which goes really bad for them. What is the etiquette surrounding God-Modding in mature, involved RP social groups?

In other words, how can you approach someone with “Hi, I had an awesome idea for a story, but it kinda involves my character totally WTFPWNing your character in some way, method, or fashion – you cool with this? Wanna help?”

Eeegh.  Nobody ever asks easy questions!

Anyway – this is something that has to be handled very delicately, obviously, since you don’t want to end up making any enemies out of your friends. It’s also something you’ll want to deal with largely OOC for awhile, and get the actual scenario set up.

However, I don’t think it’s in any way impossible to pull off.

Before you involve another PC, you probably want to make sure that it’s absolutely necessary for that particular person to be the target of the WTFPWN. It can sometimes be better to create another PC specifically for abusing them, even if that particular PC is played entirely by someone else. That way you don’t screw with the current group interactions in-character, but your own character still gets to have her moment of epic win.

Second thing you want to do is consider how to broach this with the other person in question.  Obviously, it should be out of character, and with a dose of humility that says you realize that you’re asking to let your character be big amazing and awesome, at the expense of another character.  You might be surprised that they’re willing to work with you on something, simply because getting roflstomped can be a good method of character development, if you do it right.

They also may have ideas about how to come to a similar moment of catharsis for your character, without necessarily involving as much WTFPWN as originally invisioned.  One of the amazing things about group RP is that you have other people to bounce ideas off of (more than once, another person’s input has bailed me out of a sticky writing situation). Having two characters in a relatively close-knit group go after each other, either physically or verbally, can create a lot of conflict, so again, tread carefully, and make sure everyone is on the same page! You’ve all heard me harp about communication before, so this shouldn’t be too surprising.

Anyway – once you get the actual scenario set up, I’d recommend you have an active OOC conversation going as well as what’s happening IC, or if you’re going to run the scene through writing, that you run posts past each other before you actually do them.  No surprises! And don’t be surprised if other people get involved.  In fact, be prepared for it, and possibly have people warned in advance (OOC) that something is going to go down. Otherwise you could end up with three very burly paladins in between you and your target, and have to awkwardly try to get around the situation!

And finally, no matter what happens or how you end up approaching it, if the other character says no – the answer is no.  “Stealing” a character to use as a passerby in your RP is usually OK within a close knit group, but anything major and you want the OK from the player behind the character.

This is a sticky situation, but one that can provide a lot of development for multiple characters (or just a chance to go on an Epic Tirade). Ideally, at the end, you find a way for everyone to meet their goals without anyone feeling tramped upon.

PS: As a side note from this particular question, Illi is offering his character up as a scapegoat in similar RP situations, as a way to keep her in check (as she’s something of a slightly demented, rage-suffering, bezerker most of the time).  I’ll try to post an update once a little more of that particular experiment goes through, or maybe I’ll even get a guest post out of it!


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4 Responses to “An RP Conundrum – Roflstomp?”

  1. I agree whole heartedly with this approach. I would add that one needs to be flexible regardless if you get help from the other player for the beat down.

    Personally, I do not think this would be a sticky situation if both players have been equitable regarding their RP.

    Also, in regards to Illi, he’s a hot chick IRL, has an accent that people have killed for AND he adopted me.

    I think Illi would also recommend that people should not die during raids.

    bricus last blog post..That’s Loremistress, If You Please

  2. I always have issues with asking anyone to be wtfpwned for my RP.

    Part of it has to do with the fact that I think totally pwnage is unnecessary and possibly horribly complicated.

    I am thinking of a proposed RP with Noxilite where a well-know personality tortures and nearly kills/kills a member of Nox. For all its miss-matched personalities and constant infighting, there is nothing else to turn Noxilite into a seething mass of determined killers than messing with their own.

    Oh hey, divergent. The point is that when doing the wtfpwn to a PC, you might want to consider what the result of that is going to be with other people. Do you want to deal with the additional complications?

    Is it worth it?

    Itanya Blades last blog post..Recovering from various wow crap

  3. What Pill said. A fight between two PCs means that, chances are, other PCs will get wind of it, even if they’re not there to witness it directly. It’s something that needs to be taken into consideration.

    The person looking to beat up a Noxie didn’t take that into account, and, unfortunately, I don’t think is/was willing to deal with those consequences for his character. When it was pointed out to him, the response was pretty much “My character has his reasons for doing those things, and I don’t really care what you guys do as a result. It won’t affect my character.”

    This ties right in to where you say “Don’t be surprised if other people get involved.” To that, I’d add: be willing to work with the unforeseen/extended consequences of your actions — your wtfpwnage of a PC might very well have repercussions that go far beyond that Moment of Badass. In other words, be ready for that plot to inspire spinoffs and continuations from other PCs.

    Laurens last blog post..That’s Loremistress, If You Please

  4. See, this is exactly why we need to come up with the idea of a JRP system! If you had one of these, it’d simply be a matter of negotiating the points.

    More seriously, a little ‘you scratch my back, I scratch yours’ wouldn’t go astray. Do they have a plot with an alt they’re interested in pursuing as well?

    Seans last blog post..Theme Week Comedy: Writing Comedy Characters for World of Warcraft

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