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A Confession
comment 14 Written by on April 16, 2009 – 3:58 pm

I have, as it were, a confession to make.  Some of you may have guessed it by now – it’s not all that secret of a thing.  And I guess, in the grand scheme of things, it’s no great awful thing either, just an admission of an unusual personal preference.

I don’t like Northrend.

I don’t.  I know everyone loves it, and it’s so pretty and aren’t the quests awesome!  And it *is* pretty – some of my favorite areas in the game are in Northrend (Especially Grizzly Hills, Howling Fjord, and Storm Peaks).  But I still don’t like it.

The Lore is tremendous.  We’re fighting Arthas FINALLY, right?  And those poor ghosts on the Forgotten Coast.  And OMG WRATHGATE.  And all this Earthen/Titan/Watcher stuff in Ulduar?!  You’re right, of course.  The Northrend lore is much more connected to the history of Warcraft and past games.  It’s central to a LOT of the experiences of our characters.  Hooray!

I still don’t like it.

I don’t like questing there, I don’t like hanging out there.  I don’t like Dalaran (GASP HORROR!).  It’s all very very pretty, of course, but I have no connection to the city itself.

So Anna, you ask, do you like Outland?

To be honest?  I like Outland better than I like Northrend, at least from the standpoint of my Draenei. She connects there – and my Druid is connecting there as well.  As yet NONE of my characters have connected to Northrend, with the possible exception of Aely, who lost any connection anywhere past Dragonblight.

It’s the only explanation I have for why I have characters and LOVE leveling them until they get to the mid 50’s… and then stall out.  I like the original game better.  I just do. Sometimes I can revive someone out to Outland (as I’ve had massive success with Annylais), but I had to literally *force* myself to get Annorah to 80, and have hardly logged her in since, since everything left for her to do… is in Northrend.  At least Aely is raiding and actively RPing.

I’m lucky if I can get 10-15 quests done each time I log Angoleth or Anaelle in.

It’s not that I don’t like them or want to play them.  I log in excited to work on them, with RP ideas and things to do… and then get so fed up with the Northrend quests that I just give up and go do something else, frequently either not-WoW related or an alt that’s still in Old World Azeroth.

Yes, that’s what I said. Old World Azeroth.  I like it better than Northrend – I know, I’m nuts.  But I’d rather level a character from 0-55 than anything higher than that.  It’s one of the reasons why I have so many alts!

So will I ever have a third level 80 character?

Quite possibly not.  And that makes me sad, as I’d really like to experiment with Discipline Priest healing, and eventually Druid healing as well, not to mention how much FUN being a Hunter can be. But it takes such a sheer act of willpower to DO anything that I’m pretty sure if I do end up with another 80, it won’t be for quite some time.

I’m sure I’m pretty well alone in this, since everyone keeps telling me how amazing Northrend is, and I’d love to hear your opinions in the comments.  But I can’t help it… I just don’t like Northrend.

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14 Responses to “A Confession”

  1. I’m just the opposite. I am having trouble logging into Tarelyn or my little hordies because I just didn’t find outlands that appealing.

    But Northrend, for me just blossoms.

    My problem right now though is that I am trying to catch Dorri up to all the achivements that Pill had.

    That’s a whole lot of work.

    Itanya Blades last blog post..Sometimes its pointless to talk to people about things

  2. See, I stall out about 55 as well, but that’s because I honestly don’t like Outlands and dread going through it again. I like northrend for the fact it feels closer to vanilla wow (and I’m a lore nerd) but I miss vanilla like crazy.

    Lodurs last blog post..3.1 Initial Impressions or How I Learned to Love the Crash

  3. I’m a post TBC player but having seen the game changes since, I can see why so many original WoWers complain about the constant nerfing of this game, I can only imagine how far its changed since the original game came out. If you miss a major patch . . . eek!

    Northrend is better than I expected it to be, but I don’t have that connection either. I’m horrible at max leveling characters and their is always an alt waiting for some TLC . . .

    By Ziboo on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply
  4. OMG! Someone else like me! I’m SO with you on this!

    Northrend up to the end of Dragonblight is awesome. Love Wrathgate, they should have done more of them. Storm Peaks are pretty good and Ice Crown is ok, but the others just seem like going through the motions to me.

    I’ve been questing in Outlands again (bloody Loremaster achievement) and I like it a lot more than Northrend. I just stopped and sat still in Nagrand for 5 minutes the other day and tried to figure out why it such a cool zone. I think its because it doen’t try to be realistic or something.

    Giant mushrooms in Zagermarsh, I could go on. 🙂

    BobTurkeys last blog post..Another 3.1 first impressions post

  5. I’d rather get a full root canal than level in the Outlands. >.> It does nothing for me. I have two characters stuck in their 60’s because I can’t inspire myself to finish them off. Northrend is daunting as well because I just stare at the numbers needed to ding and my eyes glaze over.

    By Yva on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply
  6. Anna, have you considered making a character specifically to tie into the Northrend storyline? I could imagine (as a humorous choice) a mage sent out to get the food when Dalaran went zapowie. A novice, the intern. And how she’s pissed, and her goal is to become powerful enough to go back there and DELIVER THEIR DAMNED PIZZA.

    And then murder some of them a little.

    Seans last blog post..What are the limits of what Blizzard can do for role-players?

  7. @Ziboo
    It’s not so much the “nerfing” of the game – things change, and they’ve always changed. I started playing about 2 weeks before the first battlegrounds and the honor system went live (gaah that’s a long time!) and the game has a LOT more polish than it did back then. We’ve seen a lot of really cool things – and it’s sad that a lot of people don’t ever see those things anymore for sure, but that’s not really what upsets me about the BC/LK expansions. The *feel* of the game is different, but BC was different enough to have its own, independent “feel”, and so I have less trouble. Northrend, for me, just… doesn’t keep me interested.

    It’s kinda like the difference between a really awesome meal, and cotton candy. Sure the cotton candy is good, but after half a wad, you’re sick of it. Where as with a really good meal you can eat it start to finish, and still enjoy the leftovers.

    By Anna on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply
  8. @Sean:

    Unfortunately that means actually deleting one of my current characters – I have 10 slots full on Feathermoon – one banker, and the lowest after that is about 30, and they all have solid, developed personalities. I could, I suppose, solidly retcon my mage (51), but … I don’t like retconning them. That’s an EXCELLENT character concept though, esp for a not-so-bright mage.


    I’ve actually come to really like certain parts of Outland. Hellfire still makes me /eyebleed, but Zangarmarsh, the wooded part of Terokkar, and Nagrand are some of my favorite zones. I just can’t find the draw in Northrend, and that – combined with the eyeglaze about the XP – makes it just motivation killing.

    By Anna on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply
  9. @Lodur
    I’m quite the lore nerd myself – and I really like the lore in Northrend… it’s just fun to talk about and ponder over, and not any fun at all to play through (with the exception of Howling Fjord and parts of Dragonblight). I enjoy the content… just not playing it. I guess.

    By Anna on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply
  10. I’m pretty well with you on most of that.

    I don’t care much for end game raiding and would much rather level characters. I do like to raid on occasion, and I do like doing various things in Northrend, but for the most part I’d rather just bring a new character up through the original content.

    The game starts to lose some of its appeal when I get a character into the Outlands because it takes on more of a sci-fi feel which I really don’t care for. There are some parts I like, some parts I don’t like, but for the most part I would rather the Outlands not exist at all.

    Getting to Northrend you finally find a bit more natural feeling to the world and I’m cool with that. I think up through Dragonblight is probably about as far as I can go as well when it comes to actually enjoying the content. After that you start to get more into things that just don’t really feel (to me) like they belong in the game except for the sake of getting you the experience you still need to make your way up to 80. And by that time you’re so overpowered that really the only concern you ever have at that point is waiting for you in the instances or in the form of opposing faction players if you happen to be in PvP zones or servers.

    Zangarmarsh and Nagrand are the parts of Outlands that I can stand. I really don’t care for any of Terrokar Forrest, and I completely skipped Netherstorm and…dragon bone place, whatever it’s called. Luckily I started my character at a time where WotLK was already out for a few weeks before my character was high enough level to get there, so I was able to skip out on some of the Outlands stuff and just head to Northrend at 68.

    I’m not really bothered at how much experience you need in Northrend considering you get over 20,000 experience for nearly every quest over there, but I expected just a little bit more than the same old crap by the time I got there. Kill X of these, bring back Y of this item, kill Elite Z and bring back his head, etc, etc. I was expecting to finally find something new. Luckily, the vehicle and dragon quests were able to help me with that a little bit, but I think they should have made more of those Daily quest options to give us more to do.

    Psynisters last blog post..3.1 Patch Update

  11. Here via WI, and I’m totally with you. My problem is that I started playing WoW around 2.4, so I didn’t really get to experience BC the way others did (I hit 70 for the first time the day before 3.0 hit). And in terms of lore, BC has all of my favorite WC lore/people: Illidan, KJ and the Sunstrider Band, etc. A lot of people love to hate on BC because it’s too “sci fi” but I love the fact that it went outside the box. I might also be the only person who thought the Draenei retcon was a good thing. One of my biggest problems with Northrend is that, for all of the nods to TFT continuity, there are still gaping holes. We’ve seen the ghosts, and a certain dwarf, but what about all those Blood Elves that stormed the beach with Illidan? I just don’t care about Arthas, he’s always felt like a cheap attempt at apeing Sephiroth (and his fanboys can be as annoying as Seph fanboys). He’s not interesting to me as a Big Bad, and never has been. The Thrall vs. Garrosh drama is the only thing keeping my interest lore-wise. That and the rumble that’s sure to break out between the Silver Covenant and the Sunreavers. None of the end game content is compelling to me at all–Naxx is long, tedious, and boring as hell, and from a mechanics standpoint I’m sick to death of these fights that substitute gimmicks for actual difficulty (Maly, I’m looking at you). Ulduar is more gimmicks, with more lore I don’t care about. Like you, I find myself spending more and more time on my lower level alts. I adore Dalaran, and the Argent Tournament looks like loads of fun, but other than that there’s really nothing making me want to log into NR right now.

    By Veradisia on Apr 17, 2009 | Reply
  12. @Veradisia –

    I think this is one of those really personal things about video games – we all have our favorites (and least favorites). My paladin is pretty hugely connected to the Arthas storyline – but even THAT’s not done right/enough in Northrend. Arthas doesn’t seem like he’s got anything better to do than show up randomly, Loom, and be threatening. And then not kill us.

    Which is another rant altogether really…

    Anyway – welcome to my little corner of the internet (and /wave to everyone else stopping by from WoW Insider!). I hope you enjoy what you read!

    By Anna on Apr 17, 2009 | Reply
  13. Totally with you here, Anna. You’ve echoed my sentiments exactly! It’s so nice to see a similar opinion on NR since everyone I know seems to adore it.
    First time I saw Dalaran, I thought: ‘Marshmallow Kingdom’.
    My guild are pretty frustrated with my alt-itis by now, I should imagine.

    By agerath on Apr 17, 2009 | Reply
  14. “Don’t Fear the Outlands”
    I’m with the people who dislike outlands, but having just leveled someone through there it’s not nearly as long of a pit-stop than you might think. The faster leveling really adds up, Do HFP and Terrokar and you’ll almost be to 68.

    As far as Northrend, I suggest taking an undead there. It really is the ‘crunch time’ for their entire race.

    By Stan on Apr 17, 2009 | Reply

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