Comments on: RP Friday Five: Leadership http://toomanyannas.com/feature/rp-friday-five-leadership/ Because Raiding and Roleplay are not Mutually Exclusive Thu, 17 May 2012 13:01:16 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: RMG http://toomanyannas.com/feature/rp-friday-five-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-3189 RMG Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:33:21 +0000 http://toomanyannas.com/blog/?p=1871#comment-3189 Does your character approve of his/her racial leader? Alsana Comstock is from Lordaeron, rather than Stormwind, so the last faction leader she truly felt allegiance to was King Terenas Menethil, who died when she was (if I am doing my math right) 13. That said, she approved of King Wrynn. While occasionally overzealous, he projects a strength that the battered human race badly needs. (OOC, of course, I think that King Wrynn is, given the blood elves letting their pet naaru go, and the Forsaken drumming out all the apothecaries under Putress, Wrynn is the single worst individual leading a player faction in WoW right now. He is evil, evil, evil, and his racist warmongering against the Horde even while the Lich King is on the move is not just bone-headed but a menace to the continued existence of the world.) All of this changed when she fell in with the Argent Crusade crowd, though... but more on that later. Does he/she approve of the faction leader (for now, let’s say that’s Warchief Thrall and King Varian Wrynn)? If you’re a Human or an Orc, how does your character feel about other people in leadership of your faction (since you answered this question with the racial one). She basically knows nothing about Tyrande, Staghelm, or Velen, as the only parts of Kalimdor she's seen are the areas around Theramore and Tanaris. She considers Magni Bronzebeard to be a fine leader, especially after the Bronzebeard brothers were reunited, helping him get over his grief for Muradin and concern for Brann. She empathizes with Gelbin Mekkatorque, since the gnomes, like the humans of Lordaeron, saw their homeland lost forever, but privately thinks that the proper thing for him to have done was go down with his ship, instead of flee to Ironforge with the other exiles. If they have a favorable impression, what does your character like about these leaders? If not, who would he or she prefer to see in their place? Extensive cooperation with the Argent Dawn in the Plaguelands and the Argent Crusade in Northrend has convinced Alsana that cooperation between the two factions is essential for defeating the Lich King. As such, she's soured somewhat on King Wrynn-- not to the point of disliking him, but thinking that perhaps a tour of Northrend would do hims some good. Magni Bronzebeard showed up in Northrend, why not King Wrynn, too? So she'd like to see some other prominent humans take more of an active role in things. Maybe Jaina Proudmoore, who seems to run a tight ship over in Theramore, or maybe Tirion Fordring. Who is the best leader that your character remembers? Is that person actually a racial/faction leader, or were they a leader of a smaller group? Tirion Fordring, by far. Meeting Tirio for the first time in the Plaguelands was a life-changing experience for Alsana-- she hadn't seen Lordaeron since before the Third War (her family was in Kul Tiras for the duration of the war, before moving back to the Lordaeron rump state in the Hillsbrad Foothills), and was deeply shocked at the total destruction of everything she knew. But there was Fordring, living in his little shack, and still showing a sense of human decency. Later on, fighting alongside him in Northrend further convinced him of his greatness. She now identifies more with the Argent Crusade than any other group. What is your character’s leadership style? Is he/she a good leader? A bad one? While she's mellowed out somewhat, her past as a spoiled aristocrat colors her leadership style, which is not particularly good. <abbr><em><abbr><em>RMGs last blog post..<a href="http://thaumic.net/2009/06/03/151-its-hard-to-lie-in-ilthmiri/" rel="nofollow">#151: it’s hard to lie in ilthmiri</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Does your character approve of his/her racial leader?

Alsana Comstock is from Lordaeron, rather than Stormwind, so the last faction leader she truly felt allegiance to was King Terenas Menethil, who died when she was (if I am doing my math right) 13.

That said, she approved of King Wrynn. While occasionally overzealous, he projects a strength that the battered human race badly needs.

(OOC, of course, I think that King Wrynn is, given the blood elves letting their pet naaru go, and the Forsaken drumming out all the apothecaries under Putress, Wrynn is the single worst individual leading a player faction in WoW right now. He is evil, evil, evil, and his racist warmongering against the Horde even while the Lich King is on the move is not just bone-headed but a menace to the continued existence of the world.)

All of this changed when she fell in with the Argent Crusade crowd, though… but more on that later.

Does he/she approve of the faction leader (for now, let’s say that’s Warchief Thrall and King Varian Wrynn)? If you’re a Human or an Orc, how does your character feel about other people in leadership of your faction (since you answered this question with the racial one).

She basically knows nothing about Tyrande, Staghelm, or Velen, as the only parts of Kalimdor she’s seen are the areas around Theramore and Tanaris. She considers Magni Bronzebeard to be a fine leader, especially after the Bronzebeard brothers were reunited, helping him get over his grief for Muradin and concern for Brann. She empathizes with Gelbin Mekkatorque, since the gnomes, like the humans of Lordaeron, saw their homeland lost forever, but privately thinks that the proper thing for him to have done was go down with his ship, instead of flee to Ironforge with the other exiles.

If they have a favorable impression, what does your character like about these leaders? If not, who would he or she prefer to see in their place?

Extensive cooperation with the Argent Dawn in the Plaguelands and the Argent Crusade in Northrend has convinced Alsana that cooperation between the two factions is essential for defeating the Lich King. As such, she’s soured somewhat on King Wrynn– not to the point of disliking him, but thinking that perhaps a tour of Northrend would do hims some good. Magni Bronzebeard showed up in Northrend, why not King Wrynn, too?

So she’d like to see some other prominent humans take more of an active role in things. Maybe Jaina Proudmoore, who seems to run a tight ship over in Theramore, or maybe Tirion Fordring.

Who is the best leader that your character remembers? Is that person actually a racial/faction leader, or were they a leader of a smaller group?

Tirion Fordring, by far. Meeting Tirio for the first time in the Plaguelands was a life-changing experience for Alsana– she hadn’t seen Lordaeron since before the Third War (her family was in Kul Tiras for the duration of the war, before moving back to the Lordaeron rump state in the Hillsbrad Foothills), and was deeply shocked at the total destruction of everything she knew. But there was Fordring, living in his little shack, and still showing a sense of human decency.

Later on, fighting alongside him in Northrend further convinced him of his greatness. She now identifies more with the Argent Crusade than any other group.

What is your character’s leadership style? Is he/she a good leader? A bad one?

While she’s mellowed out somewhat, her past as a spoiled aristocrat colors her leadership style, which is not particularly good.

RMGs last blog post..#151: it’s hard to lie in ilthmiri

]]> By: Lansiron http://toomanyannas.com/feature/rp-friday-five-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-3193 Lansiron Thu, 28 May 2009 00:03:13 +0000 http://toomanyannas.com/blog/?p=1871#comment-3193 For Lans: 1. "King Wrynn's a real blood, cut from the same cloth as the men I run with. But he ain't MY king--Lady Proudmoore's my sovereign--and I ain't afraid to say it, he gets carried away too easy. I can't fault him how much he hates the orcs, 'cause look what they did to 'im. Still, that's not a fight we got the luxury to pick these days." 2. "Ain't heard much from Mekkatorque, though he seems good enough. Whisperwind and Staghelm...they ain't too concerned for those who ain't kaldorei, so I ain't too concerned for them. Less we argue, the better we can be friends. Bronzebeard...now THERE'S a blood. If I were a dwarf, I'd be proud to have one like him in charge. And Velen...I don't know. That one, he's like nothin' else. Like a naaru made flesh and blood, or something. I ain't spoken to him, but if I did, I wouldn't know what to say. I know one thing: His people are some o' the best o' the Alliance, and we're lucky to have them." 3. "I like 'em well enough. But if I had my way, Lady Proudmoore'd be the one in charge of all of us. You know why that is? It's because she would never piking volunteer for it!! You want the best leadership, you put the one in charge who wasn't after it in the first place! The Alliance would be FAR improved with her at the helm." 4. "Basher, you never met Lord Anduin Lothar. I'll tell you; there's them that sit about waxing philosophical on right and wrong. Then there's the occasional man who just gets up and DOES RIGHT. He brought us together. He called us brother. There's a reason he's a legend." 5. "I ain't one to lead, I'll give you. At least, not one to volunteer for it. I like bein' given a direction, and makin' it my business to see it done. I'll call the shots in a combat operation myself, but really, that's different. But if some leatherhead made me king? Well, damn. If you know me at all, you know I ain't one to pretty up words the way they're expected, so whoever volunteered to be my subject better damn well not blame me if they get their feelings hurt if what I tell 'em is best is something they don't like." <abbr><em><abbr><em>Lansirons last blog post..<a href="http://jrinaldi.deviantart.com/journal/22773281/" rel="nofollow">Margatroid is a cool name.</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> For Lans:
1. “King Wrynn’s a real blood, cut from the same cloth as the men I run with. But he ain’t MY king–Lady Proudmoore’s my sovereign–and I ain’t afraid to say it, he gets carried away too easy. I can’t fault him how much he hates the orcs, ’cause look what they did to ‘im. Still, that’s not a fight we got the luxury to pick these days.”
2. “Ain’t heard much from Mekkatorque, though he seems good enough. Whisperwind and Staghelm…they ain’t too concerned for those who ain’t kaldorei, so I ain’t too concerned for them. Less we argue, the better we can be friends. Bronzebeard…now THERE’S a blood. If I were a dwarf, I’d be proud to have one like him in charge. And Velen…I don’t know. That one, he’s like nothin’ else. Like a naaru made flesh and blood, or something. I ain’t spoken to him, but if I did, I wouldn’t know what to say. I know one thing: His people are some o’ the best o’ the Alliance, and we’re lucky to have them.”
3. “I like ‘em well enough. But if I had my way, Lady Proudmoore’d be the one in charge of all of us. You know why that is? It’s because she would never piking volunteer for it!! You want the best leadership, you put the one in charge who wasn’t after it in the first place! The Alliance would be FAR improved with her at the helm.”
4. “Basher, you never met Lord Anduin Lothar. I’ll tell you; there’s them that sit about waxing philosophical on right and wrong. Then there’s the occasional man who just gets up and DOES RIGHT. He brought us together. He called us brother. There’s a reason he’s a legend.”
5. “I ain’t one to lead, I’ll give you. At least, not one to volunteer for it. I like bein’ given a direction, and makin’ it my business to see it done. I’ll call the shots in a combat operation myself, but really, that’s different. But if some leatherhead made me king? Well, damn. If you know me at all, you know I ain’t one to pretty up words the way they’re expected, so whoever volunteered to be my subject better damn well not blame me if they get their feelings hurt if what I tell ‘em is best is something they don’t like.”

Lansirons last blog post..Margatroid is a cool name.

]]> By: Lloth http://toomanyannas.com/feature/rp-friday-five-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-3192 Lloth Tue, 26 May 2009 14:54:00 +0000 http://toomanyannas.com/blog/?p=1871#comment-3192 *Nibelung, the Dwarvish Death Knight, and former Paladin of the Silver Hand, he has seen the rise and fall of several powerful men. Starting with the banishment of he and all his brethren by the Spoiled-Prince Arthas, and then the death of Uther at the hands of Arthas the Death Knight. After joining the Argent Dawn he was slain during an expedition into the scourge stronghold of Stratholme and was corrupted into a being of unholy power. Upon the uprising of the Death Knights against the Lich King, Nibeling was one of the first to call upon Darion Mograine to guide these newly freed souls. Darion is a truly great man, and has retained a fair amount of his human emotions and rationality. However, once the Knights of the Ebon Blade have their revenge upon Arthas, it is unclear if Darion will be able to lead them down a path of peace and civil living amongst the races. Nibelung considers himself a Death Knight first and foremost now-a-days and a Dwarf secondly, as such he has formed no opinion of King Magni's qualities as a leader. Before his death and rebirth (or un-birth) he had devoted himself to the Light and aiding those who could not aid themselves, regardless of their physical features, following in the footsteps of the Great Tirion Fordring. He had spent very little time in the city of Ironforge, having been born a Wildhammer dwarf in the highlands around Aeire Peak, and sent to the monasteries to learn of the Light at a young age. As for Varian Wrynn, Nibelung sees a man whose emotions lead him and not his intelligence. He feels the alliance would be much better off with a more level-headed leader lest they be taken down the same path Arthas took Lordearon down so many years previous. A leader such as Jaina Proudmoore or Velen the Prophet would do much good for the Alliance and all of Azeroth as a whole. Although his memories of his life before undeath are still only slowly coming back to him, there are a few men who are unquestionably some of the greatest leaders Azeroth has ever seen, whom he had the pleasure of knowing personally. Of these Uther was by far the most inspiring presence and many a man and woman followed him loyally. Tirion Fordring was Nibelung's mentor and personal inspiration during his life as a paladin, and even as an un-dead, seeing Tirion at the Battle of Light's Hope Chapel inspired him to reject the dark of the Lich King and to support Darion in his leadership of the Ebon Blade. Nibelung is a true general and strategist, however, unlike other leaders he gets a thrill from going toe-to-toe with all sorts of creatures, taking the personal risk of his own life in order to protect others. Some say this is because the Light smiles upon him still, even if he can not wield it, some say it is because of the natural dwarven temper and stubbornness that drive him to be in the forefront of the most heated battles, and others who know him say it is because of the dark fury of undeath that spur him on during combat when others may falter from fatigue. Whatever the reason, he has led several excursions into the heart of the Lich King's forces and come out victorious time and time again. *Nibelung, the Dwarvish Death Knight, and former Paladin of the Silver Hand, he has seen the rise and fall of several powerful men. Starting with the banishment of he and all his brethren by the Spoiled-Prince Arthas, and then the death of Uther at the hands of Arthas the Death Knight. After joining the Argent Dawn he was slain during an expedition into the scourge stronghold of Stratholme and was corrupted into a being of unholy power. Upon the uprising of the Death Knights against the Lich King, Nibeling was one of the first to call upon Darion Mograine to guide these newly freed souls. Darion is a truly great man, and has retained a fair amount of his human emotions and rationality. However, once the Knights of the Ebon Blade have their revenge upon Arthas, it is unclear if Darion will be able to lead them down a path of peace and civil living amongst the races. Nibelung considers himself a Death Knight first and foremost now-a-days and a Dwarf secondly, as such he has formed no opinion of King Magni’s qualities as a leader. Before his death and rebirth (or un-birth) he had devoted himself to the Light and aiding those who could not aid themselves, regardless of their physical features, following in the footsteps of the Great Tirion Fordring. He had spent very little time in the city of Ironforge, having been born a Wildhammer dwarf in the highlands around Aeire Peak, and sent to the monasteries to learn of the Light at a young age.
As for Varian Wrynn, Nibelung sees a man whose emotions lead him and not his intelligence. He feels the alliance would be much better off with a more level-headed leader lest they be taken down the same path Arthas took Lordearon down so many years previous. A leader such as Jaina Proudmoore or Velen the Prophet would do much good for the Alliance and all of Azeroth as a whole.
Although his memories of his life before undeath are still only slowly coming back to him, there are a few men who are unquestionably some of the greatest leaders Azeroth has ever seen, whom he had the pleasure of knowing personally. Of these Uther was by far the most inspiring presence and many a man and woman followed him loyally. Tirion Fordring was Nibelung’s mentor and personal inspiration during his life as a paladin, and even as an un-dead, seeing Tirion at the Battle of Light’s Hope Chapel inspired him to reject the dark of the Lich King and to support Darion in his leadership of the Ebon Blade.
Nibelung is a true general and strategist, however, unlike other leaders he gets a thrill from going toe-to-toe with all sorts of creatures, taking the personal risk of his own life in order to protect others. Some say this is because the Light smiles upon him still, even if he can not wield it, some say it is because of the natural dwarven temper and stubbornness that drive him to be in the forefront of the most heated battles, and others who know him say it is because of the dark fury of undeath that spur him on during combat when others may falter from fatigue. Whatever the reason, he has led several excursions into the heart of the Lich King’s forces and come out victorious time and time again.

]]> By: Ringo Flinthammer http://toomanyannas.com/feature/rp-friday-five-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-3194 Ringo Flinthammer Tue, 26 May 2009 12:17:29 +0000 http://toomanyannas.com/blog/?p=1871#comment-3194 1) Ringo and Beli are both loyal to the king and participate the dwarves' democratic process, voting for senators (and having quite strong opinions about some of them). http://www.flinthammer.org/2006/11/07/election-day/ 2) Ringo at least thinks Wrynn is more right than not about the Horde. The way home to Outland has been re-opened; the orcs need to go home. The trolls have always been the enemies of the dwarves, and there can be no more peace with them than with troggs. And both Ringo and Beli spent some time in human lands when they were younger, and view the undead as abominations who need to be laid to rest so that the few human survivors of Lordaeron can reclaim their nation. 3) The king -- even in the frustrating exception of taking so long to return to Northrend, where Ringo had thought he had lost brothers with Muradin's expedition -- clearly acts in what he thinks is the best interests of his people, and seems to have his eye on the big picture more than most of the senate does. Ringo has one brother who talks about running for the senate, which Ringo and Beli are dubious about. (A Senator Flinthammer, that is: The senate as a whole is a good thing, and a better form of government than the other races have.) 4) No one has ever out-done their king, as far as Ringo is concerned. 5) Although he considers himself a deep thinker, who looks at all sides of an issue before acting, truthfully, Ringo tends to jump in with both feet based on first impressions. He and Beli actually conducted guerrilla attacks on the survivors of the Exodar's crash, thinking that they were part of a Burning Legion attack force, while they scoffed at the explorers and diplomats from Darnassus whom they figured were walking into a demonic trap. http://www.flinthammer.org/category/5-before-the-storm/ 1) Ringo and Beli are both loyal to the king and participate the dwarves’ democratic process, voting for senators (and having quite strong opinions about some of them).

http://www.flinthammer.org/2006/11/07/election-day/

2) Ringo at least thinks Wrynn is more right than not about the Horde. The way home to Outland has been re-opened; the orcs need to go home. The trolls have always been the enemies of the dwarves, and there can be no more peace with them than with troggs. And both Ringo and Beli spent some time in human lands when they were younger, and view the undead as abominations who need to be laid to rest so that the few human survivors of Lordaeron can reclaim their nation.

3) The king — even in the frustrating exception of taking so long to return to Northrend, where Ringo had thought he had lost brothers with Muradin’s expedition — clearly acts in what he thinks is the best interests of his people, and seems to have his eye on the big picture more than most of the senate does. Ringo has one brother who talks about running for the senate, which Ringo and Beli are dubious about. (A Senator Flinthammer, that is: The senate as a whole is a good thing, and a better form of government than the other races have.)

4) No one has ever out-done their king, as far as Ringo is concerned.

5) Although he considers himself a deep thinker, who looks at all sides of an issue before acting, truthfully, Ringo tends to jump in with both feet based on first impressions. He and Beli actually conducted guerrilla attacks on the survivors of the Exodar’s crash, thinking that they were part of a Burning Legion attack force, while they scoffed at the explorers and diplomats from Darnassus whom they figured were walking into a demonic trap.

http://www.flinthammer.org/category/5-before-the-storm/

]]> By: Sid http://toomanyannas.com/feature/rp-friday-five-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-3190 Sid Tue, 26 May 2009 11:14:06 +0000 http://toomanyannas.com/blog/?p=1871#comment-3190 1) Yes and No. Sidheknight thinks that Lor'Themar Theron is a good and well-intended guy, but he's very... inactive? He hasn't done very much to hold his people together and lead them after Kael'Thas betrayal. And his participation on the Horde's decisions is almost nule, compared to that of Sylvanas or Cairne, for example. 2) Yes. Sidheknight totally approves the actions of his faction leader, Warchief Thrall. Their goals are the same: To redeem themselves and survive in a world that hates them. However, he thinks that Thrall should disciplinate that reckless youngling of Garrosh Hellscream. 3) See above. 4) Sidheknight admires the leadership of his guild leader, the orc warrior Krom. 5) He has lead many parties of adventurers to victory on the countless dungeons of Azeroth and Outland. He's good leading small groups, but a total inexpert when it comes to larger raids. 1) Yes and No. Sidheknight thinks that Lor’Themar Theron is a good and well-intended guy, but he’s very… inactive? He hasn’t done very much to hold his people together and lead them after Kael’Thas betrayal. And his participation on the Horde’s decisions is almost nule, compared to that of Sylvanas or Cairne, for example.

2) Yes. Sidheknight totally approves the actions of his faction leader, Warchief Thrall. Their goals are the same: To redeem themselves and survive in a world that hates them. However, he thinks that Thrall should disciplinate that reckless youngling of Garrosh Hellscream.

3) See above.

4) Sidheknight admires the leadership of his guild leader, the orc warrior Krom.

5) He has lead many parties of adventurers to victory on the countless dungeons of Azeroth and Outland. He’s good leading small groups, but a total inexpert when it comes to larger raids.

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