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It’s only a (dual) spec, I can change it
comment 8 Written by on April 14, 2009 – 12:07 pm

Originally I’d thought I wasn’t going to dual-spec my paladin.  My shaman, absolutely will have both a restoration (chain heal) build and an elemental build.  But Aely?  She’s a holy paladin, and I’m not a huge fan of her when she’s being ret.

But… well, what if I tried to build a holy DPS spec?  I’ve played a lol-smite priest (Disc/Holy DPS hybrid) and did quite well for myself.  I won’t be leading the damage meters, but the only time I do DPS with Aely is on Noth and when I’m soloing.

So I figured why not!

Aely gets to stay a Holy Paladin, I get to do a little more DPS than a wet noodle, and there’s some fun experimentation to be had!

For Healing:

  • Holy spec: (basic holy spec, similar to my current spec, only with Divinity instead of Kings)
  • Glyphs?  Holy Light, Seal of Wisdom, and Holy Shock for now, we’ll see how the Holy Shock one works out, and if I hate it, I’ll go back to Divinity.

For Smashing:

  • Other Holy spec: focused around 1H DPS with Seal of Righteousness, crits, Holy Shock, and Sanctified Retribution.  Will it be the new ret?  No way.  But will it be FUN for my off spec?  Quite possibly…
  • Glyphs?  Consecration, Holy Shock, and Seal of Righteousness

But, of course, there are several things that could go either way, particularly with the damage build.

Things I’m unsure about:

  • I’ve got Improved Blessing of Wisdom in both specs, since range from a totem is iffy on some fights, and I’d prefer to have that, plus it’d be nice to not *lose* it if I swap to the DPS spec inside of a raid.  Could possibly shuffle those two points into something else, but for now, I’ll stick with it.
  • Whether or not I’ll get laughed at.  (Ok, so this one’s kind of silly)
  • Whether Divinity is actually better than Sanctity of Battle – I’m choosing consistently 5% more healing over 3% extra crit, basically choosing the “non-burst healing” option.  Not that I don’t have gobs of crit anyway.  If mana regen is really an issue, I may swap to Sanctity of Battle instead, to see if that helps.
  • Whether Glyph of Judgement or Glyph of Consecration would be better.  I’m leaning towards Consecration, since that’s ideal for a high spellpower situation and helps with the mana problems inherent with using it all the time and not having Spiritual Attunement/Seal of the Martyr, but if we end up fighting stuff with a lot less AOE, I may switch to Judgement.

Anyway – with all the stuff flying around and changes, it’ll be interesting to see what happens (if anything) when we head into Ulduar this week.  I’d rather hoped to have another week before all this went live, but I can’t wish it away! I’ve had some real motivation issues recently in game, so I’m hoping this new content will help (though that remains to be seen).

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8 Responses to “It’s only a (dual) spec, I can change it”

  1. I have two 80’s a Paladin and a Shaman so both having dual specs will be crazy.
    Pally= DPS, Tank
    Shaman= Healer, DPS
    Of course I want to bring both to raids and at the moment it’s hard to decide what I will do.

    How do you handle it?
    Do you just have one main for 25’s and the rest just do 10’s or does your guild let you rotate your characters?

    Eizens last blog post..Quick Naxx Guide

  2. @Eizen:

    My raid has a strong and fully enforced no alts policy, so I have to pick one.

    As I leveled, I found I had a strong preference for the paladin from an RP standpoint, and we had something of an opening for either a tank or a raid healer, so I could’ve brought my Pally or my Shaman. I chose the Paladin. The Shaman does some occasional 10 man stuff, and I’m hoping to ramp that up as we get farther along into Ulduar.

    If the raid ever needs the Shaman, I will be happy to bring her, but as I’m a healer on both (primarily) and we have an excellent resto shaman already, it’s not overly likely.

    By Anna on Apr 14, 2009 | Reply
  3. Ah, it’s the opposite for me, dual-speccing my Pally seemed to be a no-brainer. I fell in love with Ret as soon as I first rolled it in Nagrand, but I’ve always harboured a secret love of healing.

    This will save a lot of respec cash/antagonising for me/

    Drazmors last blog post..Drazmor the Busy Bee

  4. Heh, you posted this just as I was putting together a small write up for a bunch of folks asking about shockadin spec’s. Ive posted an extract on the tri forums but one thing I can suggest, for glyphs, nab the exorcism one rather than consecrate. 20%(from glyph)+15%(from talents)+a 10 second CD (talented again). Yum.

    By Mac on Apr 14, 2009 | Reply
  5. What are some good pointers for a shockadin build? My gf’s pally is holy, but she was looking into other builds for the dual specs, but we can’t find any decent info on one…

    By Jason on Apr 15, 2009 | Reply
  6. @Jason:

    I’m copy/pasting this from Mac’s thread on our raid forums, but he’s spot on:

    “Been seeing several pallies wanting a Shockadin spec. This is substantially more viable than previously due to Exorcism working on everything – Ive had quite a bit of fun with Holy DPS over the last few months.

    First thing I’d recommend is making sure your DPS abilities (SotR, Holy Shock, Consecrate, Judgement, Exorcism) are bound to easy to reach keys and spam them all on CD. Shock and Consecrate are your biggest damaging abilities (Exorcism probably is now too) and should be prioritised over SotR and Judge (as long as you have the haste bonus up).

    Dont forget to use Aura mastery and Wings on CD and try to time them so both are up at the same time.

    Lot of filler talents in holy.
    – Shockadins wont be using Blessing of Wisdom since everything (except Shock) Scales with AP so Blessing of Might is a lot better
    – Spiritual focus is filler since you wont be healing

    – More shocks with the reduced CD
    – More SoR damage which is the primary DPS seal
    – More damage from exorcism
    -30 minute BoM asd a quality of life improvement, especially if you’re providing BoW to other pallies


    Its a lot of fun and the DPS isnt too bad either – its no ret, but it is similar to prots soloing/tanking DPS without the requirement of actually getting hit. Oh! Make sure you use some +hit gear. Since there’s almost none on plate caster gear its going to come from trinkets, rings, necklases and cloaks. Sacred shield can let you get away with lighter armour than plate and still let you wade into a pack of melee mobs and consecrate em to death. ”

    Mac’s build is similar to what I’m trying, but he’s picking up Blessing of Might (since that has better synergy with shockadins) while I’m sticking with Blessing of Wisdom, since I’ll likely be using this in raids as well, and I’m usually the only pally with improved Wisdom. Whether or not I end up taking the points in Spiritual Focus or not will depend on how soloing goes, but I think Holy Shock will crit enough to grant me instant FoL spells to make up for it.

    By Anna on Apr 15, 2009 | Reply
  7. Personally, I think that this is a fantastic idea. I think maybe dual spec will give people who only traditionally have One Spec To Rule Them All have, essentially, a “talent sandbox” to play in. I mean, if it weren’t for the fact you could switch Aely back to her trusty healy glyphs and dedicated healy spec, would you even consider doing something like this? But now that you can do it essentially on the fly, you have something fun to just experiment and play around with that still fits with her as a character.

    Long live the shockadin!

    Stops last blog post..Rise from your grave

  8. Instead of a shockadin spec – if you want to heal and DPS look at a sheathadin build. The build focuses on high crits for sheath of light, and to proc art of war for your insant FoL. It’s a little more gimped due to the SS 1 target limitation, but it works really well for healing Heroics or if you’re a 5th healer in Naxx. If you have the ret gear, it can do decent damage as well. Check out http://www.lightnatured.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&p=15687 for more information – Angenie was really thinking outside the box with this one.

    By Adgamorix on Apr 20, 2009 | Reply

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