Comments on: Are your problems healer caused?

By: Rilgon Arcsinh

Rilgon Arcsinh — Wed, 13 May 2009 23:03:28 +0000

“Do you have a disc priest that never casts power word shield?”

Yes, and it makes me cry. T_T

By: HP

HP — Wed, 13 May 2009 08:25:00 +0000

Good article. I think that with Naxx, it bred bad habits and also allowed healers that weren’t great to slip through the cracks. You offered good tips to figure out who is the weak link in the healing core. For progression, the backbone is the healer team though the glory goes to the tanks =X

By: Anna

Anna — Wed, 13 May 2009 01:46:18 +0000

@ivyleaves:

Well, there’s the “we hit the enrage timer” wipe, the “oops I forgot the boss did that” wipe, and the “tank forgot to equip his resistance set” wipe.

So yes, while everyone does die during a wipe… I think you know what I mean.

By: ivyleaves

ivyleaves — Wed, 13 May 2009 01:44:07 +0000

Not to be a douche, but this made me chuckle:

1. Are people dying?
If yes, and if it’s the cause of the majority of your wipes

All I could think of, is “Has there ever been any other way to wipe?”

By: Bhorgia

Bhorgia — Tue, 12 May 2009 23:35:26 +0000

With Ulduar there is a steep learning curve. It's harder than anything some guilds have faced before. Remember folks, not all the guilds in MC are around anymore, not all the guilds that did progression in KARA are around anymore. For a lot of folks, Ulduar is the first real progression they have ever encountered. I have a lot of people in my guild who are just not used to wiping. They see wipes as failures and not as learning. What we do to determine why we are wiping we use a lot of different things. Failbot mod helps tell us if somebody stood in something that they were not supposed to. Recount tells us (approximately) if dps were doing their job, and to a lesser degree, if the healers are. The WWS gives us the best feedback. That is where we refine our healing strategy. To see if individuals need to do better, I look at reports from other guilds for the same boss. Otherwise I look at other toons in other guilds and see how they are building their toons. There is room for variety there too. If you have a priest who consistently goes OOM, maybe it is spell selection instead of gear. . . Our overall strategy is usually the culprit for wipes. We can't always run a boss the way it is done on tankspot. Sometimes we have to mix it up due to the skill and variety of OUR raid team. But the biggest way to FIX these things is just as Anna said - communication. Our raid leaders exchange ideas all week on the website. They talk strat for a few minutes before the raid. We wiped for 8-12 hours worth of raiding before we got Razorscale down the first time. The tankspot strategy was not working for us. Healers were getting aggro for some reason and dps was not killing mobs fast enough. We reworked it and now we just AoE everything into the dust. But it took DAYS to figure that out. We did not blame the dps, or the heals, or the tanks . . . we looked for ways to get better in all 3 areas. Bhorgias last blog post..Feilurei Application