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Ask Anna: Guild Advice
comment Comments Off on Ask Anna: Guild Advice Written by on November 14, 2012 – 8:59 am

On twitter, @argardes asks:

“help! I am in a 125 member guild with only 30 real players sigh they are friendly and but they suck in Ilvl”

Ok Argardes, I answered you on twitter, but this is a good thing for everyone to remember.

If you are experiencing frustration with your guild, evaluate how well it actually fits what you want in game. There are lots of guilds full of lovely people in which I probably wouldn’t fit, because I’m interested in both roleplay and (at this point) casual raiding.

I’m sure, by your question, that you like your guildmates. They’re probably fun people, and you like hanging around with them (or you wouldn’t be in their guild).

However, if your guildmates aren’t interested in progression raiding, and you are, you’re not in the right guild.

If they ARE interested in progression, and are just moving at a slower pace, it’s time for you to decide if you’re having enough fun with them to either wait or do everything you can to help them get better. Step up and start a heroic night, help coordinate professions so that people can get crafted gear to make up for holes in drops. Help with dailies and be social (I love being in vent while I’m doing dailies because it helps it feel less like a lonely chore) – group up to run content and get people more gear so their “Ilvl” is better. Your progression options may stop with LFR, but you’ll at least have some content to clear with people you like.

(However, if by “Ilvl” you’re trying to find a nice way to say that they play badly and don’t care to optimize their spec/gear/consumables, you may have to do some teaching as well. You don’t need to know every class, but encouraging people to spend time with Icy Veins guides and a target dummy can go a long way.)

Remember though, you can’t change other people. You can’t force them to like progression. While you can try to encourage them to do more high level stuff, if they’re not that interested, they’ll always feel like a hindrance, especially if you’re expecting a level of performance that they’re not up to doing. There’s a huge difference between “yeah raiding sounds like fun” and “I’m willing to put in the time to have a raid ready character”.

Also, it probably means you would be leading a raid, which is a pretty substantial undertaking. Doubly so if you’re the only one in the guild who really wants to raid.

If you decide that you’re more interested in progression, you have a few options. You could try finding a guild that would take you on as a non-guilded raider, if you really like your guildies. Or you can take your main to a raiding guild and leave your alts in your social guild (this works for lots of people).

I’m not saying you should be a jerk. Be upfront about it. Tell people you’re interested in a more progression focused guild and are looking at other guilds. It’s likely that they’ll be OK with that, even if they’ll miss you, because that’s what you want to do with your $15 a month. Through the magic of BattleTags, you can still group with them for heroics!

But don’t stay in a guild where you’re unhappy, longing for a chance to raid. This is a game, and you should be having fun playing it. There are tons of nice people who play WoW, and many of them raid. You can find a guild that suits your raiding preferences and make some new friends in the process.

TLDR version: If you’re really unhappy with your guild, either work to make it better, or find a new guild!

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